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ວັນທີ່ 15 ພະຈິກ ແມ່ນວັນເກີດວຽງຈັນ


ເປັນຫຍັງເພິ່ນຈິ່ງເລືອກເອົາວັນທີ່ 15 ພະຈິກ 2010 ເປັນວັນຄົບຮອບວຽງຈັນຄົບຮອບ 450 ປີ
ມີຫຼັກຖານອັນໃດມາອ້າງອິງ ເພື່ອເລືອກເອົາວັນນັ້ນ ເປັນວັນສະຫຼອງ confuse


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ເປັນຫຍັງເພິ່ນຈິ່ງເລືອກເອົາວັນທີ່ 15 ພະຈິກ 2010 ເປັນວັນຄົບຮອບວຽງຈັນຄົບຮອບ 450 ປີ
ມີຫຼັກຖານອັນໃດມາອ້າງອິງ ເພື່ອເລືອກເອົາວັນນັ້ນ ເປັນວັນສະຫຼອງ confuse



What month is "PHAJICK" ?
Knew only "PHJICKA"

What's original language?  

Sorry, I am not very don't know. 



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ເປັນຫຍັງເພິ່ນຈິ່ງເລືອກເອົາວັນທີ່ 15 ພະຈິກ 2010 ເປັນວັນຄົບຮອບວຽງຈັນຄົບຮອບ 450 ປີ
ມີຫຼັກຖານອັນໃດມາອ້າງອິງ ເພື່ອເລືອກເອົາວັນນັ້ນ ເປັນວັນສະຫຼອງ confuse



What month is "PHAJICK" ?
Knew only "PHJICKA"

What's original language?  

Sorry, I am not very don't know.

 



ummm..
november

 



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ບໍ່ຕ້ອງຄິດຫຍັງຫຼາຍ ຜູ້ຈັດເພິ່ນກໍ່ບໍ່ຮູ້ຄືກັນດອກ
ສົງໃສ ຈັດໃສ່ໃຫ້ມັນຖືກກັບຕອນບຸນພະທາດຫຼວງຊື່ໆ



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RE: PHJICKA



ກ່ອນປີ1975 ເພິ່ນເອີ້ນພຶສະຈິກາ ແຕ່ຍ້ອນວ່າອ້າຍນ້ອງເຂດປົດປ່ອຍເກົ່າສ່ວນຫລວງຫລາຍເວົ້ານໍາບໍ່ໄດ້ ລຸງພູມີກໍ່ເລີຍຕັດສະລະອຶໂຕສໍອອກໃຫ້ຍັງເຫລືອແຕ່ພະຈິ.

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RE: ພະຈິກ


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ກ່ອນປີ1975 ເພິ່ນເອີ້ນພຶສະຈິກາ ແຕ່ຍ້ອນວ່າອ້າຍນ້ອງເຂດປົດປ່ອຍເກົ່າສ່ວນຫລວງຫລາຍເວົ້ານໍາບໍ່ໄດ້ ລຸງພູມີກໍ່ເລີຍຕັດສະລະອຶໂຕສໍອອກໃຫ້ຍັງເຫລືອແຕ່ພະຈິ.





ກ່ອນປີ1975 ເພິ່ນເອີ້ນພຶສະຈິກາ ແຕ່ຍ້ອນວ່າອ້າຍນ້ອງເຂດປົດປ່ອຍເກົ່າທີ່ເປັນຊົນເຜົ່ານ້ອຍສ່ວນຫລວງຫລາຍເວົ້ານໍາບໍ່ໄດ້ ລຸງພູມີກໍ່ເລີຍຕັດສະລະອຶໂຕສໍອອກໃຫ້ຍັງເຫລືອແຕ່ພະຈິກ.

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RE: ວັນທີ່ 15 ພະຈິກ ແມ່ນວັນເກີດວຽງຈັນ


Who's created this date was Vientiane birthday?
Is Vientiane's birthday or Vientiane as capital of Lane Xang?
If Vientiane's birth birtday might be longer then 450 years.
In Fangum ara, Vientiane was Muong Phainarm and central office of Vientiane was Muong Sayfong ( Moung Hat sayfong this present time ) 

Do you mean Vientiane's birthday or Vientiane as capital?
                                                                       

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you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang 



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you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang 




 They don't know, that's why they asking a question?? or confused with the question and you called them a stupid and Khouay?? if you know why don't you just explain to them. these people asked a qusetion might be the kids that didn't know anything about our country. if you're such a educated why don't you tell them. Now, Let' me asking you? Who were arrested Pha-chao Anouvong and gave him ti Siamses???? Answer please Mr smart???



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you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang 




You're Khouay and ma, mister uneducated!!!!

First thing first, can you answer a question that someone just ask you
who were arrested Chao Anouvong and sent him to Siam?

Don' call me name if you're educated person.

Can you read Lao, and understand what a question of this title of this topic is?  

Vanthee 15 Phajick main van kert Vientiane, ritght?

450 years is anniversary of Vientiane as the capital of Lane Xang, not Vientiane birthday.

My confusing is 450 years isn't Vientiane age. Vientiane is older than 450 years according to Laos history.  



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you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang 




 They don't know, that's why they asking a question?? or confused with the question and you called them a stupid and Khouay?? if you know why don't you just explain to them. these people asked a qusetion might be the kids that didn't know anything about our country. if you're such a educated why don't you tell them. Now, Let' me asking you? Who were arrested Pha-chao Anouvong and gave him ti Siamses???? Answer please Mr smart???



Thank you so much for your words to help me to open that person mind.
I don't think he know how to answer your question about Chao Anouvong. I knew about that question since I was on 3rd grader. Chao Noy Xieng Khouang or  Chao Noy Muong Phouanh who's arrested Chao Anou and sent him to Siam. Later Vietnamese Impire ordered his tropps to arrest Chao Noy Muong Phouanh and killed him the same way to what Siam had have been done to Chao Anou.  In king Anou era, Lane Xang and Vietnam was having very good relationship to eachother as brothers and these two countries kept continue from then untill present time.    Chao Anou was the one who started to  make frienship with Vietnam.
  

 



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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang




They don't know, that's why they asking a question?? or confused with the question and you called them a stupid and Khouay?? if you know why don't you just explain to them. these people asked a qusetion might be the kids that didn't know anything about our country. if you're such a educated why don't you tell them. Now, Let' me asking you? Who were arrested Pha-chao Anouvong and gave him ti Siamses???? Answer please Mr smart???



Thank you so much for your words to help me to open that person mind.
I don't think he know how to answer your question about Chao Anouvong. I knew about that question since I was on 3rd grader. Chao Noy Xieng Khouang or  Chao Noy Muong Phouanh who's arrested Chao Anou and sent him to Siam. Later Vietnamese Impire ordered his tropps to arrest Chao Noy Muong Phouanh and killed him the same way to what Siam had have been done to Chao Anou.  In king Anou era, Lane Xang and Vietnam was having very good relationship to eachother as brothers and these two countries kept continue from then untill present time.    Chao Anou was the one who started to  make frienship with Vietnam.

 

 



Pardon me, I'm a little bit confused. Isn't a three headed elephant on a none communist Laos flag stands for a land of Lane Xang? If King Anou was from Lane Xang era, how is that he was a good friend or like brother to Vietcong?

 



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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang




They don't know, that's why they asking a question?? or confused with the question and you called them a stupid and Khouay?? if you know why don't you just explain to them. these people asked a qusetion might be the kids that didn't know anything about our country. if you're such a educated why don't you tell them. Now, Let' me asking you? Who were arrested Pha-chao Anouvong and gave him ti Siamses???? Answer please Mr smart???



Thank you so much for your words to help me to open that person mind.
I don't think he know how to answer your question about Chao Anouvong. I knew about that question since I was on 3rd grader. Chao Noy Xieng Khouang or  Chao Noy Muong Phouanh who's arrested Chao Anou and sent him to Siam. Later Vietnamese Impire ordered his tropps to arrest Chao Noy Muong Phouanh and killed him the same way to what Siam had have been done to Chao Anou.  In king Anou era, Lane Xang and Vietnam was having very good relationship to eachother as brothers and these two countries kept continue from then untill present time.    Chao Anou was the one who started to  make frienship with Vietnam.


ເຈົ້າສະບາຍດີຂ້າພະເຈົ້າຂໍມີສ່ວນຮ່ວມປະກອບຄຳຄິດຄຳເຫັນແດ່ຈັກນ້ອຍໜຶ່ງຄືດັ່ງທີ່
ຄຳຖາມທີ່ຖາມວ່າ ແມ່ນໃຜເປັຄົນຈັບເຈົ້າອານຸວົງສົ່ງໃຫ້ກອງທັບສະຫຍາມນັ້ນ ມີບາງເອກະສານທີ່ຂ້າພະເຈົ້າໄດ້ອ່ານ ເຊິ່ງຂ້າພະເຈົ້າຈື່ບໍ່ໄດ້ແລ້ວວ່າເອກະສານນັ້ນຊື່ຫຍັງ ເອກະສານສະບັບນີ້ມັນໄດ້ວິເຄາະກ່ຽວວ່າແມ່ນໃຜເປັນຄົນຈັບເຈົ້າອານຸວົງສົ່ງໃຫ້ສະຫຍາມ ເຊິ່ງເນື້ອໃນບາງຕອນໄດ້ວິເຄາະວ່າເຫດໃດເຈົ້ານ້ອຍເມືອງພວນຈຶ່ງເປັນຜູ່ທີຈັບເຈົ້າອະນຸວົງ ທັງໆທີ່ເຈົ້ານ້ອຍເມືອງພວນເປັນຫຼານເຂີຍຂອງເຈົ້າອະນຸວົງ (ບໍ່ແນ່ໃຈວ່າແມ່ນຫຼານເຄີຍຫຼືບໍ່ ເພາະເຈົ້ານ້ອຍເມືອງພວນໄດ້ແຕ່ງງານກັບພີ່ນ້ອງເຈົ້າອານຸວົງ) ແລະ ຍ້ອນເຫດຜົນອີກປະການໜຶ່ງຄື ຖ້າວ່າເຈົ້ານ້ອຍເມືອງພວນເປັນຜູ່ຈັບເຈົ້າອານຸວົງແທ້ ເປັນຫຍັງສະຫຍາມຄືບໍ່ສົມມະນາຄຸນແກ່ເຈົ້ານ້ອຍເມືອງພວນ ແຕ່ຊຳພັດເກັບເກນກວດຕ້ອນເອົາປະຊາຊົນເມືອງພວນລົງໄປບາງກອກ ເຊິ່ງມັນຢັ້ງຢືນໄດ້ໃນເນື້ອໃນຂອງບົດກາບເມືອງພວນ ທີ່ສະແດງອອກເຖິງຄວາມທຸກຍາກລຳບາກຂອງປະຊາຊົນຊາວເມືອງພວນທີ່ຖືກ
ກວດຕ້ອງໄປສະຫຍາມ.  ແຕ່ໃນເອກະສານນີ້ມັນໄດ້ເວົ້າເຖິງຈຸດໜຶ່ງວ່າອາດແມ່ນເຈົ້າເມືອງນ່ານ
ເປັນຜູ່ຈັບໂຕເຈົ້າອານຸວົງໃນລະຫວ່າງ
ທີ່ເດີນທາງຈາກວຽງຈັນໄປຊຽງຂວາງຫຼາຍກວ່າ
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you all are so stupid. they use lao calendar to organize the time for celebrate the 450 anniversary of Vientiane capital. kouay pouk ma bor hu jak pa vat sard ton eang




They don't know, that's why they asking a question?? or confused with the question and you called them a stupid and Khouay?? if you know why don't you just explain to them. these people asked a qusetion might be the kids that didn't know anything about our country. if you're such a educated why don't you tell them. Now, Let' me asking you? Who were arrested Pha-chao Anouvong and gave him ti Siamses???? Answer please Mr smart???



Thank you so much for your words to help me to open that person mind.
I don't think he know how to answer your question about Chao Anouvong. I knew about that question since I was on 3rd grader. Chao Noy Xieng Khouang or  Chao Noy Muong Phouanh who's arrested Chao Anou and sent him to Siam. Later Vietnamese Impire ordered his tropps to arrest Chao Noy Muong Phouanh and killed him the same way to what Siam had have been done to Chao Anou.  In king Anou era, Lane Xang and Vietnam was having very good relationship to eachother as brothers and these two countries kept continue from then untill present time.    Chao Anou was the one who started to  make frienship with Vietnam.

 

 



Pardon me, I'm a little bit confused. Isn't a three headed elephant on a none communist Laos flag stands for a land of Lane Xang? If King Anou was from Lane Xang era, how is that he was a good friend or like brother to Vietcong?

 



Read Lane Xang history then you'll know why Lane xang and Vietnam were good friendship during King Anouvong era?   No Vietnam communist or Vietcong back then so, and no Laos PDR either, only Lane Xang and Anam.  They didn't call country ( PHATHED ) like today's back then, Laos was " ANACHACK LANE XANG " and Vietnam was " ANACHACK ANAM" in lao language.

Vietnam Impire sent 50,000.00 ( fifty thousand ) troops to help King Anouvong fight against Siam. Vietnamese troops was late on schedule to help King Anouvong, because on the way to Laos they were stucked by heavy storm. After they knew about Chao Noy Muong Phouanh arrested King Anouvong and sent him to Siam, they arrested and killed him as same as Siam done to King Anouvong. 

 According to Lane xang history.



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It is very Interesting to know what went on back then! I now clear on that, thank you very much.smile

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ເປັນຫຍັງເພິ່ນຈິ່ງເລືອກເອົາວັນທີ່ 15 ພະຈິກ 2010 ເປັນວັນຄົບຮອບວຽງຈັນຄົບຮອບ 450 ປີ
ມີຫຼັກຖານອັນໃດມາອ້າງອິງ ເພື່ອເລືອກເອົາວັນນັ້ນ ເປັນວັນສະຫຼອງ confuse



Check it out, it may help you to know about the birth of Vientiane.

Year 1340's  Prince Fa-Ngum was reunified the principal of Lao in Indochina peninsular.
Principal Tai Lao reunifier by Princr Fa-Ngum during 35 years ( 1340-1475 ):
Muong Swa, Xieng Dong-Xieng Thong ( or Luang Prabang today ), Muong Phuane ( Xieng Khuang today ), Lane Phia ( Ayuthaya ), Xieng Thung, Sip-song Phanna, Nge Anh ( Vietnam today ), Lao Lanna, Sip-Song Chao Thai, Nong Boualumphou (Thailand today ), Nan ( Changwath Nan Thailand today ) Huaphanh and Phainam ( Muong sayfong, Vientiane today ). Champasack, Ubon, Hoi-Eth, Kontoum, Darlac, Rattanakhili, Kratie, Xieng-Teng ( Strong-Trang Cambodia today ).

King saysethathiraj constructed That Luang in 1560 and he annouced Vientiane as Lane Xang capital after 1 year anniversary of That Luang ceremony ( 1561 ).

According to original lane Xang history.

  


 



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ປະຫວັດສາດທີ່ ລະບຸວ່າແມ່ນ ເຈົ້້ານ້ອຍ ເມືອງພວນ ເປັນຄັນຈັບເຈັົ້້າອານຸ ສົ່ງໃຫ້ໄທນັ້ນ ເປັນເລື່ອງຂອງພວກສະຫຍາມສ້າງຂຶ້ນ ເພຶ່ອສ້າງຄວາມແຕກແຍກລະຫວ່າງ ປະຊາຊົນລາວດ້ວຍກັນ. ເພາະສ່ວນໃຫຍ່ ຄົນລາວແຕ່ກ່ອນ ແມ່ນໄປສຶກສາປະສາດຂອງລາວເຮົານັ້ນຢູ່ແຕ່ໄທ ຍັງບໍ່ທັນມີໂອກາດສຶກສາ ນຳບັນດາປະເທດພູມີພາກໄກ້ຄຽງ ເຊັ່ນ: ເອກະສານຈາກເຈົ້້າຊິວິດພະມ້າ, ເອກະສານຈາກເຈົ້າມົນທົນຢູນນານ ຈີນ, ເອກະສານຈາກ ເຈົ້າຊີວິດກຳປູເຈຍ ແລະ ເຈົ້າຊີວິດຫວຽກນາມແຕ່ກ່ອນ. ພວກເຂົາໄດ້ບັນໄວ້ ວ່າ ເຈົ້າອານຸວົງຖຶກ ນາຍທະຫານຈາກ ເມືອງເມືອງນ່ານ ດັກສະກັດຈັບຕົວສົ່ງໃຫ້ສະຫຍາມໃນລະຫວ່າງເດີນທາງຈາກວຽງຈັນ ໄປເມືອງພວນ. ນັບແຕ່ນັ້ນມາ ກຸງວຽງຈັນໄດ້ຖືກພວກສະຫຍາມເຜົາຜານຈົນຮາບກ້ຽງ ແລະ ຕໍ່ມາເຈົ້ານ້ອຍ ເມືອງພວນ ກໍ່ຖຶກພວກສະຫຍາມຈັບຕົວໄປ ພ້ອມກວດໄລ່ເອົາ ປະຊາຊົນຊາວເມືອງພວນ ລົງໄປເປັນຊ້ອຍຂ້າ ຢູ່ສະຫຍາມຈຳນວນບໍ່ໜ້ອຍ

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ປະຫວັດສາດທີ່ ລະບຸວ່າແມ່ນ ເຈົ້້ານ້ອຍ ເມືອງພວນ ເປັນຄັນຈັບເຈັົ້້າອານຸ ສົ່ງໃຫ້ໄທນັ້ນ ເປັນເລື່ອງຂອງພວກສະຫຍາມສ້າງຂຶ້ນ ເພຶ່ອສ້າງຄວາມແຕກແຍກລະຫວ່າງ ປະຊາຊົນລາວດ້ວຍກັນ. ເພາະສ່ວນໃຫຍ່ ຄົນລາວແຕ່ກ່ອນ ແມ່ນໄປສຶກສາປະສາດຂອງລາວເຮົານັ້ນຢູ່ແຕ່ໄທ ຍັງບໍ່ທັນມີໂອກາດສຶກສາ ນຳບັນດາປະເທດພູມີພາກໄກ້ຄຽງ ເຊັ່ນ: ເອກະສານຈາກເຈົ້້າຊິວິດພະມ້າ, ເອກະສານຈາກເຈົ້າມົນທົນຢູນນານ ຈີນ, ເອກະສານຈາກ ເຈົ້າຊີວິດກຳປູເຈຍ ແລະ ເຈົ້າຊີວິດຫວຽກນາມແຕ່ກ່ອນ. ພວກເຂົາໄດ້ບັນໄວ້ ວ່າ ເຈົ້າອານຸວົງຖຶກ ນາຍທະຫານຈາກ ເມືອງເມືອງນ່ານ ດັກສະກັດຈັບຕົວສົ່ງໃຫ້ສະຫຍາມໃນລະຫວ່າງເດີນທາງຈາກວຽງຈັນ ໄປເມືອງພວນ. ນັບແຕ່ນັ້ນມາ ກຸງວຽງຈັນໄດ້ຖືກພວກສະຫຍາມເຜົາຜານຈົນຮາບກ້ຽງ ແລະ ຕໍ່ມາເຈົ້ານ້ອຍ ເມືອງພວນ ກໍ່ຖຶກພວກສະຫຍາມຈັບຕົວໄປ ພ້ອມກວດໄລ່ເອົາ ປະຊາຊົນຊາວເມືອງພວນ ລົງໄປເປັນຊ້ອຍຂ້າ ຢູ່ສະຫຍາມຈຳນວນບໍ່ໜ້ອຍ



Muang Nan ( or Chang-Vat Nan Thailand today ) and Muang Phuane ( Xieng Khuang laos today ) are not same direction if King Anouvong were departured Vientiane to Muong Phuane like you wrote down in lao up there. Anyway, where did you read that LaneXang history? What's LanXang history told that Chao Muong-Muang Nan ambushed and arrested  King Anou and sent him to Siam? 

 

 



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