-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lao Nhay USA To: "laosnetworkroom@googlegroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 4:39 AM Subject: Re: meeting in March
ພາສິດລາວຍັງກ່າວວ່າ: ຊາດ ທີ່ພາສາເຊື້ອ ແນວເສືອ ຢ່າໄດ້ແອບເອົາເນີ To: Laos Network Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:09 PM ໃຫ້ເຈົ້າແອບເອົາ ແຕ່ເຊື້ອລູກຊ້າງ ມາສ້າງສືບເຮືອນ.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wkbouarouy@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:37:34 -0500 Subject: Fwd: meeting in March To: phom.soudhasa@gmail.com CC: laosnetworkroom@googlegroups.com
Sabaidee Tharn Phom:
Jao. Thank you for your compliment to provide me your advises. I appreciated that very much. I and the chairman of this conference will be screening another round to prevent those type of crises to be occurred. I will not speculate the circumstance, but I knew myself that very few of them who pro-left so far that I knew, but will deal with it with the fairness manner since we are the majority.
I am very serious and very strictly how to deal with the lackeys of the communist Pathet Lao who are trying with their fifth plans to destroy us in for foreign lands since 1975 up to now. Since their plan 1 through 4 had been accomplished. Now this is the last plan that they are using to destroy all of us.
Right after March's meeting, we also will be planning for the general democratically election meeting to elect for our leader with the country who will host us to achieve this ideal. I will keep everyone posted.
Thank you, Dr. Bouarouy...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: phom.soudhasa@gmail.com Reply-to: laosnetworkroom@googlegroups.com To: laosnetworkroom@googlegroups.com Sent: 1/30/2012 4:23:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: meeting in March
Nub thu Dr Bouaroy,
It is good to organise the meeting in March, 10-11. at Washington DC.
I am happy to see your good work for Lao people and I would like to say some idea here:
This is for the submitted letter only: If you get support up to 17 organizations that is very good. Please do not forget to check the empty organization or Pro - Neo Lao organization, when you add their organization in without their consent then they complained about the name in the letter. After the investigation, your letter will be voided.
I have a story in Australia. Mrs Pauline Hanson was a MP to oppose the Asia migrants living in Australia. Since then she became famous woman after the term run out she could not reelect because two major parties did want to have the racism in Australia ( no preference for her ). Then she set up the new party again and she added a person in the political party with out consent but that person complained then she was fined and was sent to the jail.
The spy and enemy can stop you in all ways, please be careful.
The number is no need to get too many, if you get 50% +1 that means a majority in the worldwide system.
Hak phaeng
Phom,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, wrote:
Dear Mr. Toukhaty:
Jao, thank you for your compliments. We cannot wait for no one to start up this process. There will be more than 30 some organizations will be support this ideal. That's why we will hold our meeting at the metropolitan Washington, D.C. area again on 3/10-11/2012 to endorse this plan and strategy to implement. We also could not wait any longer. I will keep the forum and the members posted.
Thank you, Dr. Bouarouy..
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Wkbouarouy@aol.com To: say.nevasanh@gmail.com, bounkhong.arounsavat2@gmail.com CC: laosnetworkroom@gooblegroups.com Sent: 1/29/2012 10:11:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Fwd: ???????????????? ?????????? ???? ???????????????????.
Dear Mr. Say:
May I share my thoughts, ideas, believes and philosophies with this forum and its members here? At any time, we are not going to bow down to the communist Pathet Lao when they are so weaken like this time around. They failed to manage the country completely. That's how we must do something about our country without any delay. I have different ideas than yours, due to the problems of Laos are different from Burmese people. The Burmese problems are between the Burmese Vs. Burmese people, but the problems of Laos are the problems between the Lao people Vs. Vietnamese dictatorship... far ways different though!!!
Since we have many organizations formed up in the foreign lands, in order for us to be fair to every group to select our leader, I have been contacted the country who will recognize us the first country. Also that will be the first country and she will host our general election for the Lao-Overseas-People and its leader to become a democratically leader around the world, and be prepared sir. We will use the same style of Tibetan had been democratically elected their Prime Minister to run the business as usual to support their cause.
Again, that leader after elected to the floor must have his/her plan in place to bring the case of Laos to the UN Tribunal Court of Justice and the International Court of Justice at the Hague, the NETHERLAND with no delay. That leader also must came from the people, by the people and for the Lao people. After then, we will be declared a legitimate opposition party (Vs.) Neo Lao who gain the power in the country now.
Any government and its leader must have the consent of the people governed. The consent must be obtained through a democratic system of inquiry by which the people choose individuals and ideas from among themselves that have freely and uninhibitedly arisen for their consideration. The consent must not be obtained through manipulation of the stimulants of fear.
We, the citizens of Laos national living in the free world countries are not so persuaded as our brothers and sisters at home to offer the hollow, fear-induced consent. Therefore, find it our duty to declare the present government of Laos illegitimate and demand, on behalf of all our countrymen and women, that such government be abolished and a new one, democratic in form, be established in its place. Remember, real political opposition has not been tolerated.
Many Lao overseas people and many of our brothers and sisters at home have imprisoned and persecuted with the goal of maintaining the communist state for 36 years passed-by now. These attempts have gone materially unanswered and the lack of legitimacy remains. Anyhow, the 12 rounds championship is on the way, but the tenth rounds had been completely done, but the only 2 more rounds to get rid of it to win either the knock-out or to win the count.
To be honest with all of you, we went that far further though, we are not at the beginning at all since I interpret your comments here you did not measure the accomplishments that we had been get rid of them. This is our challenging day-to-day basis. I still have more ideas to measure and to share with the forum, but let's stop here for now. Finally, let's approaching the people the right way of the right path to pursue to win this battle.
Also please challenging and used the FIFO and LIFO methods to run the business as our successful system. The FIFO is short for: First In - First Out, and LIFO is short for: Last In - First Out... So, please be prepared for this up coming events. We will make our 2012 will be the year of our accomplishments of all type of the business that we committed to get the job done. So far I reached out more than 17 organizations and its leaders to be cooperated along with this event. We will be trying to reach out more though. We are not going to keep continuing to commit ourselves to be failed, but to win. Only patience is the key of success. Your comments are welcome...
Thank you, Dr. Bouarouy...
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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Ubon-man-held-for-people-smuggling-30174896.html Ubon man held for people smuggling The Nation February 1, 2012 1:00 am An Ubon Ratchathani man was arrested in Saraburi's Nong Khae district while trying to smuggle 20 Laotians in his pickup truck to Pathum Thani's Khlong 10 area, AntiHuman Trafficking Division chief Pol MajGeneral Chawalit Sawaengpeuch said ...yesterday.
After an investigation turned up information that three trucks loaded with Laotians would pass through the area, police arrested Withoon Thongsin, 32, with 11 men, eight women and a child from Laos in his truck. They had reportedly paid Withoon Bt1,600 per head to transport them to Pathum Thani, from where they were planning to travel to Bangkok to find jobs.
The arrest stemmed from information gleaned during the earlier capture of traffickers smuggling Laotians in Ubon Ratchathani. Withoon, whom police believe had engaged in the activity many times before, earning about Bt30,000 each time, faced charges of harbouring or assisting illegal immigrants, while the Laotians were facing charges of illegal entry.Mehr anzeigen Ubon man held for people smuggling - The Nation www.nationmultimedia.com Ubon man held for people smuggling The Nation An Ubon Ratchathani man was arrested in Saraburi's Nong Khae district while trying to smuggle 20 Laotians in his pickup truck to Pathum...
Southeast Asia Feb 22, 2012 Off the air in Laos By Beaumont Smith
VIENTIANE - Amid an unprecedented flurry of public debate and critique of government policies and actions, Lao authorities abruptly canceled a popular call-in radio program in late January without any public explanation.
The program, Talk of the News, ran for four consecutive years and encouraged the public to comment on issues of the day through often anonymous phone calls. The host, Ounkeo Souksavanh, an urbane ex-print journalist found himself uniquely enmeshed in the Lao population's complaints and grievances.
Social justice, overt corruption and land grabs were daily fare on Talk of the News, a rarity in Laos' authoritarian context. While many wondered when the boot would drop on the program, Lao listeners had grown accustomed to this point of light in the
otherwise drab government-controlled media landscape.
Summoned by the director of Lao National Radio, Ounkeo was told that Minister of Information, Culture and Tourism Bosengkham Vongdara had issued the cancellation order. "I was shocked. I had no warning," said Ounkeo. "Suddenly I was told by the head of national radio that he had been told to cancel my show. I think the order came from high up in the Ministry of Information and Culture," Ounkeo said.
"I take my program from the daily news. I open the show by reading out segments from the Lao press and then open the lines for people to comment. Recently people have been saying strange things. When many nightclubs were re-opened, someone called to say, 'well what do you expect - you know who owns them' and then he hung up." The rub was that they are likely owned by senior government officials.
"Later, someone called me and warned me not to give space to the public. But it's an open line program, so people complain about many things; the Vietnamese taking land from veterans for a golf course, the loss of farming land on Don Chang [an island outside of Vientiane]. What can I do?"
Hopes that Laos may emulate Myanmar's recent tentative moves to greater press freedom, or that the ruling Communist Party might begin to move towards more enlightened policies, have been snuffed out with the program's closure. The cancelation and continued human-rights abuses indicate that democracy is still elusive.
"Who [demanded the closure] is not the issue here, but there is no legal reasons at all. There is no warning about the mistakes. This case reflects that the Lao government limits on people's freedom expression [and is] violating the national constitution. It expresses that the power belongs to only the government. In fact that the constitution says power belong to people, by people and for people [sic]" one anonymous fan posted to the program's website.
Many Lao used the anonymity of radio to bring into question what one long time Vientiane observer has called "patrimonial politics", referring to the dominance of several influential families in Laos' politics and economy.
Some suggest the last straw may have been a live-to-air interview with a delegation of farmers from the Boloven plateau, a well-known coffee growing region in the south. They insisted that a Vietnamese coffee company had been given permission to plant 150 hectares of coffee.
Over time, however, the area had expanded into 1,000 hectares. The farmers alleged the district governor had taken bribes from the company to look the other way, and that he had recently been seen driving a new luxury car, which they insinuated was part of his pay-off.
That particular program attracted a huge audience and might have contributed to the subsequent deluge of the National Assembly's hot-line with similar land-grabbing complaints.
Before the program's airing, Ounkeo had already achieved a degree of Robin Hood-like fame for giving voice to poor versus rich social justice issues. For instance, he took his microphone into the city's jail to interview a woman wrongly accused of arson following a neighborhood feud with a wealthy Lao family. The woman was subsequently released.
The show's cancelation caused unprecedented commentary among Laos' online community. Members of Lao Links, a Lao language online bulletin board, expressed dismay and regret that "society won't be able to listen to this program anymore because it is as same as a big microphone to speak out about social problems", one online contributor wrote.
"It's the hot issue on Lao Links right now," engineer Khantone Soumiphone said. "We are all wondering why it happened and we are very concerned. It was the only source of interesting news and discussion about important development issues ... The government says it is pro-development but closes the only program that discusses the results. It doesn't make sense."
After the program's closure, Ounkeo held discussions with European Union charge d'affaires Michel Goffin, who apparently told him that the issue of press freedom would be raised at the forthcoming 9th Asia-Europe Summit (ASEM) to be held in Vientiane in November. Goffin did not answer this correspondent's request for confirmation that he made the comment.
Ironically, some of the complaints raised on Ounkeo's radio show were about the agricultural land on Don Chang. A luxury hotel is scheduled to be constructed in time for the ASEM meeting on land that previously provided much of Vientiane's fresh produce.
Meanwhile, less than a week after the program's cancelation, the front page headline in Laos English language daily newspaper, Vientiane Times, announced that the party was poised to "bolster propaganda at grassroots level".
The Ministry of Information and Culture's Propaganda and Training Board is "to accelerate the establishment of mobile propaganda teams ... to penetrate grassroots communities". The new propaganda drive, some suggest, is a government reaction to the open public hostility to its policies and actions often aired on Ounkeo's program.
Those grievances are apparently mounting. It is an open secret that many Lao provinces still function as modern-day fiefdoms for Lao political leaders to extract money and privilege. "Gate keeping, influence peddling and rent seeking are national sports disguised as development," said agro-economist Jeff Casey from Bangkok.
While Laos' gross domestic product has grown in recent years, so too has the national Gini coefficient, a statistical measure of economic inequality. Laos remains one of the world's poorest countries and mushrooming mansions owned by government officials and the sheer number of new luxury cars on Vientiane's roads have raised uncomfortable questions about who are the real beneficiaries of the communist leadership's development agenda.
Some Lao residents believe that the party is rattled by the spate of demonstrations against official abuse in neighboring Vietnam and the rise in local complaints lodged via the National Assembly's hot-line. Most of those complaints have focused on a lack of government transparency, particularly on land issues, and systemic corruption that Ounkeo's program not so subtly suggested taints all levels of government.
Beaumont Smith is a freelance journalist.
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