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Thank you for your advice.

Private hospital and socialist idea are not compatible.

Do you know how many Private Companies (not private hospitals) are allowed
to operate in Laos? I, myself can’t count because there are many.

You're right, there is nothing wrong with having private enterprise in any economy.  In fact, market oriented economy tends to work better than the  planned one.  However, there are certain services that has to be the sole responsibility of the state, such as policing, firefighting, defense, etc. In many countries, health care is also included  among those responsibilities because it is considered a basic citizen right thus primary health care is accessible by everyone and not just the few who can afford it.

The government has to create law that requires all residents of Laos to have primary health insurance.

The government can make rules or requires its citizen to have health in
insurance all they like but if Laos’s health care is not up its job
then our people will still seek out for a better treatment elsewhere.

People has every right to find the best care possible.  The question that should be ask is how can hospitals in Laos be improved?  I'm admit that I'm no health care economist, but the only solution that I can think of is to have everybody mandatory enrolled in health insurance scheme, where everybody contribute money into it then use money to improve the hospitals that are already existed.  This scheme is actually practice by most industrialized country and I believe it is called "Universal Coverage."

Private hospitals will never take care of the poor and will only contribute to
the wealth gap that is currently increasing in the Lao PDR.

You
are right a private hospital will only take fee paying patients but
they are not always rich. For instance: when a person in my/your family
is sick and we have been to all available hospitals in Vientiane but
there is nothing they can do about it. Now where will we go next? To
our neighbouring countries 100%. So are we rich? No. But it’s necessary
to find a better treatment for our love ones when they need it.

The
gap between the rich and the poor, I thought depends on how the wealth
is distributed in the society, surely is not up to a private hospital.

as
same as the above comments the government can earn tax revenue from
private hospital, create more jobs for local and enable Lao people to
have access to good health care.

Equal access to health care, equal opportunity at good education and certain form of taxation practices do reduce the wealth gap.  Healthy and educated people contribute more to the revenue of the state.  The state and its people enter into a contract where government provides basic services and the people agree to pay for them in form of taxation or fee.  However, I read recently in either the Vientianetime or KPL that  insurance scheme in Laos is not viable because only the terminally sicks are purchasing health insurance.  If citizens are not willing to contribute then where will the state get fund to provide the services.  Of course, if you have done your obligated duty, then it is your prerogative to find the best care for you and your family.

Lastly, how can private hospital contribute to the overall health care quality of a country when it is serving a minuscule  percentage of the population?  In the end, this question goes back to the basic need cover by the state.  If also a question that has to be discuss by the Lao society.  What level of equitable society does its really want to have?

Anonymous wrote:

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Private hospital and socialist idea are not compatible.

Do you know how many Private Companies (not private hospitals) are allowed
to operate in Laos? I, myself can’t count because there are many.

You're right, there is nothing wrong with having private enterprise in any economy.  In fact, market oriented economy tends to work better than the  planned one.  However, there are certain services that has to be the sole responsibility of the state, such as policing, firefighting, defense, etc. In many countries, health care is also included  among those responsibilities because it is considered a basic citizen right thus primary health care is accessible by everyone and not just the few who can afford it.

The government has to create law that requires all residents of Laos to have primary health insurance.

 

The government can make rules or requires its citizen to have health in
insurance all they like but if Laos’s health care is not up its job
then our people will still seek out for a better treatment elsewhere.

 

People has every right to find the best care possible.  The question that should be ask is how can hospitals in Laos be improved?  I'm admit that I'm no health care economist, but the only solution that I can think of is to have everybody mandatory enrolled in health insurance scheme, where everybody contribute money into it then use money to improve the hospitals that are already existed.  This scheme is actually practice by most industrialized country and I believe it is called "Universal Coverage."

 

Private hospitals will never take care of the poor and will only contribute to
the wealth gap that is currently increasing in the Lao PDR.

You
are right a private hospital will only take fee paying patients but
they are not always rich. For instance: when a person in my/your family
is sick and we have been to all available hospitals in Vientiane but
there is nothing they can do about it. Now where will we go next? To
our neighbouring countries 100%. So are we rich? No. But it’s necessary
to find a better treatment for our love ones when they need it.

The
gap between the rich and the poor, I thought depends on how the wealth
is distributed in the society, surely is not up to a private hospital.

as
same as the above comments the government can earn tax revenue from
private hospital, create more jobs for local and enable Lao people to
have access to good health care.

Equal access to health care, equal opportunity at good education and certain form of taxation practices do reduce the wealth gap.  Healthy and educated people contribute more to the revenue of the state.  The state and its people enter into a contract where government provides basic services and the people agree to pay for them in form of taxation or fee.  However, I read recently in either the Vientianetime or KPL that  insurance scheme in Laos is not viable because only the terminally sicks are purchasing health insurance.  If citizens are not willing to contribute then where will the state get fund to provide the services.  Of course, if you have done your obligated duty, then it is your prerogative to find the best care for you and your family.

Lastly, how can private hospital contribute to the overall health care quality of a country when it is serving a minuscule  percentage of the population?  In the end, this question goes back to the basic need cover by the state.  If also a question that has to be discuss by the Lao society.  What level of equitable society does its really want to have?

 

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Thanks webmaster for changing my topic into Lao language. I have tried to use the link given above to write Lao but without success.

Anyway, back to the topic.
I fully agree that certain services have to be the sole responsibility of the state, but that does not mean we should not have a private hospital. Why not have state and private hospitals together, just like many other developed countries have done so that people can have choice.

 

I am sure many of us in Laos have already paid taxes and are fine about it. Most of my family members do, either in the form of business or salary taxes. Still, many people in Laos cannot afford to pay taxes but it's not that they are unwilling to pay taxes.

 

One thing I know of: why the quality of a private health care will be better than the state one is that there are many investors who are willing to put lots of money into this area.

 

No, I did not write anything about a private hospital will contribute to the OVERALL health care quality of A Country rather I said: we could have choice and better access to modern, good quality health care when we need it.

  

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Government is trying to have private hospital, they begins from Louang Namtha, I hope you guys know that if you keep on tract on Lao news, which governements has already approved the first private/commercial hospital in northen of Laos and I am sure there will be investment on the same business in other major cities of Laos.

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Why they begin from Luang Namtha?  What do they have special project in this 2 towns?   How come they don't start from the cities near Thailand border to stop people go to Thai hospital?      Luang Namtha is a first China town in Laos, most its populations are Lao-chinese people, tha's why they begin from there. I heard they will build another private hospital in Bokeo, Houay xay too.   

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ເວົ້າຕາມຄິດ ທາງພາກເໜືອແມ່ນໃຫ້ຈີນ ພາກກາງໃຫ້ໄທແລະພາກໃຕ້ໃຫ້ວຽດເປັນຜູ່ເທັກແຄແລ່ນເລື່ອງໂຮງໝໍເອກະຊົນ.

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ດີທີ່ສູດແລ້ວຖ້າເປັນໄປໄດ້  ຫຼືຈະຄິດວ່າ ປະເທດລາວ ບໍ່ຕ້ອງການໂຮງໝໍເອກະຊົນ ເຖີງແນວໃດ໋ ຢູ່ຕາມໂຮງໝໍ

ເລົ່ານັ້ນ ກໍຮັບໄຊ້ແຕ່ຄົນມີເງີນເທົ່ານັ້ນ. ຄົນລວຍບໍ່ມີສິດເຂົ້າຄູກ  ຄົນທູກບໍ່ມີສິດເຂົ້າໂຮງໝໍ. ດີແທ້ ສ້າງໂຮງໝໍ

ປົວແນວຄິດຄົນບ້າເຫັນແກ່ຜົນປະໂຫຍດຕົວເອງສາກ່ອນ ເພາະເປັນໂລກ ທີ່ຈອ່ງດຶງຄວາມຈະເລີນຂອງຊາດ. ເພາະພະຍາດນີ້ກຳລັງແຜ່ຂະຫຍາຍແຮງ.

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ຖ້າຈະຕັ້ງໂຮງໝໍປົວຄົນທີ່ເຫັນແກ່ປະໂຍດສ່ວນຕົວ ຕັ້ງເປັນພັນແຫ່ງກະຍັງຊິແອອັດຄືເກົ່າຫັ້ນລະເພາະບ້ານເຮົາຄົນເຫັນແຫ່ຕົວປົ່ງຄືໜໍ່ໄມ້ແຕ່ຂັ້ນບ້ານຂຶ້ນໄປຮອດຂັ້ນເວົ້າບໍ່ໄດ້.

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My point is to discuss why Laos should have good quality health care for its citizens, expats, and tourists when they need one. People who go to private hospitals are not always rich as I have commented earlier.

Yes, there are greedy and selfish people whose actions have prevented some progression of the nation but not all the people who have money are corrupt. There are many Lao citizens who make money from honest work.

Be a little positive and Don’t be so negative other while we will not have anything done in this country. 

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ຖ້າມີໂຮງໝໍເອກະຊົນອາດຈະເຮັດໃຫ້ທ່ານໝໍທີ່ມີຝີມືດີຫລາຍຄົນເຊົາເຮັດວຽກກັບໂຮງໝໍຫລວງຄືກັນກັບອາຈານສອນຫລາຍຄົນອອກມາສອນຢູ່ໂຮງຮຽນເອກະຊົນຫັ້ນລະ! ຜູ່ໄດ້ຮັບຜົນສະທ້ອນກໍ່ຄືປະຊາຊົນຜູ່ຍາກຈົນ

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Anonymous wrote:

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ຖ້າເພິ່ນຈະຕັ້ງໂຮງພະຍາບານເອກະຊົນເພິ່ນຄວນໃຫ້ຄົນລາວມີສ່ວນຮ່ວມນໍາຢ່າງນ້ອຍ50% ແລະຮັບທ່ານໝໍແລະພະຍາບານບານລາວເຂົ້າເຮັດວຽກໃນໂຮງບານນັ້ນ 75% ເງິນກີບຈຶ່ງຈະບໍ່ຮົ່ວໄຫລອອກນອກປະເທດ.

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Maybe they will hire doctor and nurse from foreign country such as the Philippine because they are good in English, qualified, and can be hired at reasonable price.