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ໃຜຮູ້ເລື່ອງລົດໄຟຄວາມໄວສູງເລົ່າສູ່ຟັງແດ່ ເອົາເງຶນມາແຕ່ໃສມາສ້າງ


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RE: ໃຜຮູ້ເລື່ອງລົດໄຟຄວາມໄວສູງເລົ່າສູ່ຟັງແດ່ ເອົາເງຶນມາແຕ່ໃສມາສ້າງ



ເງິນຈໍານວນ 2100 ລ້ານໂດລາທີ່ຈະເອົາມສ້າງທາງລົດໄຟຄວາມໄວສູງແມ່ນເງິນພາສີຂອງປະຊາຊົນທຸກຄົນທີ່ອາໃສໃສແຜ່ນດິນລາວ, ລັດຖະບານລາວອາດຈະໃຊ້ແທນຈີນໃນຮູບແບບອື່ນ ບາງທີອາດຈະໃຫ້ເຂົາເຂົ້າມາຂຸດຄົ້ນບໍ່ແຮ່ຫຼືສໍາປະທານໂຄງການພັດທະນາອື່ນໆ. ສ່ວນຄ່າລົດໄຟນັ້ນອາດຈະຂຶ້ນກັບໄລຍະທາງ ແລະສໍາລັບປະຊາຊົນລາວອາດຈະບໍ່ໄດ້ເສຍແພງດອກປານນັ້ນດອກ ອາດຈະປະມານແສນນຶ່ງສອງແສນເທົ່ານັ້ນລະ.

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ຄ່າປີ້ຣົຖໄຟອາດຈະເກັບເອົາຕາມໄລຍະທາງ ໄປໄກ້ກໍ່ຈ່າຍຖືກ ໄປໄກກໍ່ຈ່າຍແພງ ແຕ່ຄົງບໍ່ເກີນຮ້ອຍໂດລາຖ້າຂີ່ຈາກວຽງຈັນໄປຫາຊາຍແດນຈີນ.

ເຖິງວ່າຂ້ອຍຈະບໍ່ມີວາດສະໜາຈະໄດ້ຂີ່ ແຕ່ຂ້ອຍກໍ່ດີໃຈນໍາພີ່ນ້ອງລາວທຸກຄົນທີ່ຈະໄດ້ຊົມໃຊ້ຣົຖໄຟຄວາມໄວສູງນີ້

ແລະກໍ່ຫວັງວ່າເສຖກິດລາວຈະດີຂຶ້ນຍ້ອນມີການຄົມມະນາຄົມທີ່ທັນສະໃໝຄືກັບປະເທດອື່ນ.

ໄດ້ຍິນວ່າເພິ່ນຈະເລີ້ມລົງມືສ້າງໃນທ້າຍປີນີ້ເພື່ອຕ້ອນຮັບກອງປະຊຸມອາເຊັມ9 ແມ່ນແທ້ບໍ?



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The total construction costs (about 6$billion) will be borne by the Chinese gov.
Laos government do not contribute to this project in financial terms, but will hold 30% stake provided that Laos government give land on both sides of the railways (5x2 km) for the Chinese family to do whatever they want with the land.

We all shoundn't be proud like some dumb politicians who claim that it will be amazing for Laos to be the first country in Asean to have highspeed train.




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Anonymous wrote:

The total construction costs (about 6$billion) will be borne by the Chinese gov.
Laos government do not contribute to this project in financial terms, but will hold 30% stake provided that Laos government give land on both sides of the railways (5x2 km) for the Chinese family to do whatever they want with the land.

We all shoundn't be proud like some dumb politicians who claim that it will be amazing for Laos to be the first country in Asean to have highspeed train.



I couldn't believed that this topic is appeared again.  This topic was done sometime ago, the Lao gov't cannot afford to let the Chinese taking over

a land.  Lao gov't owns 30% stake, Chinese owns 70% stake plus big junk of land.  That's no, no, it won't happen.

On the other hand, in Thailand it doesn't work that way, Thai gov't own 70%, Chinese owns 30% with no land to offer bcoz the workers will be all Thai pple.

where in lao, the workers will be all Chinese.  Do u see the different here? 100% sure it won't happen at least not now.  Besides, no underdevelops nation in the whole world has had speed train or bullet train anywhere.  Only in the developed nation have had these luxury things.



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That is stupid idea if lao gov's do that because lao land is belong to lao people not for chiness or other country

That is no good at all

 

 



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Anonymous wrote:

That is stupid idea if lao gov's do that because lao land is belong to lao people not for chiness or other country

That is no good at all

 

 





"Mr Somsavat said the proposed railway would be a historic event for Laos and would bring huge benefits to the country....blah blah....

He also said the profile of Laos would be raised as it would be the first country in the region to have a high speed railway..."

really Somsavath...? do you really believe it is a good idea? how much did you and your gang get from signing the MOU?

http://www.na.gov.la/docs/eng/currentnews/2010/decamber10/Laos-China_railway_to_speed_up_development.pdf

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ນະໂຍບາຍlandlinkເປັນນະໂຍບາຍທີ່ຖືກຕ້ອງແທດເໝາະກັບການພັດທະນາໃນປະເທດລາວແຕ່ຕ້ອງດໍາເນີນການແບບສະເໝີຕົ້ນສະເໝີປາຍ, ຖ້າຝ່າຍລາວເສຍປຽບຫລາຍກໍ່ຄວນພິຈາລະນາໃໝ່ ແລະຄວນມີການປຶກສາຫາລືກັບປະຊາຊົນແລະທຸກຝ່າຍທີ່ກ່ຽວຂ້ອງກ່ອນຈະຈັບປາກກາເຊັນລົງໄປ.




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ເສັ້ນທາງ High Speed train ຂອງຈີນເສັ້ນທີ່ຜ່ານເມືອງລາວເສັ້ນນີ້ລະທີ່ຈະເປັນປະຕູເປີດກ້ວາງ

ໃຫ້ລັດຖະບານຈີນສົ່ງປະຊາກອນຂອງເຂົາເຂົ້າມາຕັ້ງຖິ່ນຖານຢູ່ໃນຜືນແຜ່ນດິນລາວໂດຍລັດຖະບານ

ລາວຈະຮູ້ສຶກໂຕ. ເສັ້ນທາງຣົດໄຟເສັ້ນນີ້ຈາກຊາຍແດນຈີນເຖິງວຽງຈັນ ຍາວປະມານ 400km, ຈີນ

ໄດ້ສະເໜີໃຫ້ລັດຖະບານລາວເອົາທີ່ດິນຂອງສອງຝາກຂ້າງຂອງທາງຣົດໄຟເສັ້ນນີ້ຂ້າງລະ 5km ໃຫ້ຢູ່

ໃນພາຍໃຕ້ກຳມະສິດຂອງຈີນ ເມື່ອມາບວກໄລ່ຄູນຫານເບີ່ງເນື້ອທີ່ສອງຝາກຂ້າງທາງຣົດໄຟເສັ້ນນີ້ກໍ

ກ້ວາງປະມານ: ( 2x5km ) x ( 400km )= 40,000km2. ຈະເປັນຂອງຈີນໂດຍກົງ. ຈີນອ້າງວ່າ

ຈະໃຊ້ເນື້ອທີ່ເຫຼົ່ານັ້ນໃຫ້ເປັນສະຖານທີ່ໆປຸກສ້າງບ້ານພັກໃຫ້ກຳມະກອນຊາວຈີນທີ່ມາສ້າງທາງຣົດໄຟ

ເມື່ອສ້າງທາງຣົດໄຟເສັດແລ້ວກໍຈະໃຊ້ບ້ານພັກເຫຼົ່ານັ້ນໃຫ້ນາຍຊ່າງທາງຣົກໄຟຊາວຈີນຍ້າຍເຂົ້າມາຢູ່

ເເທນທີ່ເພື່ອຈະດູແລແລະຊ້ອມແປງທາງຣົດໄຟຕໍ່ໄປ. ນາຍຊ່າງແລະນັກວິຊະວາກອນຂອງຊາວຈີນທີ່

ເຂົ້າມາປະຈຳໜ້າທີ່ຢູ່ເນື້ອທີ່ນັ້ນໆ ແນ່ນອນເຂົາກໍຈະຄອບຄົວຂອງເຂົາເຂົ້າມາຢູ່ນຳດ້ວຍ.

ລັດຖະບານລາວຄວນຄິດໃຫ້ລອບຄອບກ່ອນຈະຈັບປາກກາເຊັນສັນຍາສ້າງທາງຣົດໄຟເສັ້ນນີ້ລົງໄປ.

ຂໍໃຫ້ສະຫາຍຜູ່ນຳຈົ່ງຢ່າເຫັນແກ່ " ເງິນແສນໄທ່ " ຂໍໃຫ້ເຫັນແກ່ " ໄພ່ແສນເມືອງ " ເດີ້ສະຫາຍເດີ້.





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What historic for Laos??? All the Chinese truly want is to use Lao land for their rail link to sell their products and trade with bigger economies like Thaliand, Malaysia and Singapore. Laos happens to be on their way. By letting the Chinese build their railroad through Laos, Laos will be under the control of China more and more and will be flooded by poor southern Chinese looking for job opportunities in Laos. There are already so many illegal Chinese workers in Laos. These guys all came with tourist visa and refuse to return to their country. The Lao government cannot send those illegal Chinese or Vietnamese back because we own them something. Laos is too sparsely populated and doesn't need those trains.



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What historic for Laos??? All the Chinese truly want is to use Lao land for their rail link to sell their products and trade with bigger economies like Thaliand, Malaysia and Singapore. Laos happens to be on their way. By letting the Chinese build their railroad through Laos, Laos will be under the control of China more and more and will be flooded by poor southern Chinese looking for job opportunities in Laos. There are already so many illegal Chinese workers in Laos. These guys all came with tourist visa and refuse to return to their country. The Lao government cannot send those illegal Chinese or Vietnamese back because we own them something. Laos is too sparsely populated and doesn't need those trains.


 ເຈົ້າອ່ານເຫັນແຕ່ຜົນເສຍ ຜົນໄດ້ມັນກໍ່ມີຫຼາຍຍາພໍ່ເອີຍ. ຖ້າມີລົດໄຟຄວາມໄວສູງແລ່ນ ການໄປມາແລະການສົ່ງສິນຄ້າກໍ່ສະດວກຂຶ້ນ, ປະຊາຊົນກໍ່ຈະມີຄວາມເຊື່ອໝັ່ນພັກປະຊາຊົນປະຕິວັດລາວຫຼາຍຂຶ້ນ ແລະລັດຖະບານລາວກໍ່ຈະມີຖານະສູງຂຶ້ນໃນເວທີສາກົນ.

ສິ່ງທີ່ຂ້ອຍເປັນຫ່ວງກໍ່ຄືຢ້ານຜູ່ບ່າວຈີນມາຕົວະເອົາຜູ່ສາວບ້ານຂ້ອຍໄປນອນຊ້ອນເທົ່ານັ້ນລະ, ສ່ວນຊັບໃນດິນສິນໃນນໍ້ານັ້ນ ບໍ່ມີລົດໄຟເຂົາກໍ່ເຂົ້າມາຂຸດຄົ້ນເອົາໄດ້ສະບາຍຢູ່ແລ້ວ.




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;">ເຈົ້າອ່ານເຫັນແຕ່ຜົນເສຍ ຜົນໄດ້ມັນກໍ່ມີຫຼາຍຍາພໍ່ເອີຍ. ຖ້າມີລົດໄຟຄວາມໄວສູງແລ່ນ ການໄປມາແລະການສົ່ງສິນຄ້າກໍ່ສະດວກຂຶ້ນ, ປະຊາຊົນກໍ່ຈະມີຄວາມເຊື່ອໝັ່ນພັກປະຊາຊົນປະຕິວັດລາວຫຼາຍຂຶ້ນ ແລະລັດຖະບານລາວກໍ່ຈະມີຖານະສູງຂຶ້ນໃນເວທີສາກົນ.

ສິ່ງທີ່ຂ້ອຍເປັນຫ່ວງກໍ່ຄືຢ້ານຜູ່ບ່າວຈີນມາຕົວະເອົາຜູ່ສາວບ້ານຂ້ອຍໄປນອນຊ້ອນເທົ່ານັ້ນລະ, ສ່ວນຊັບໃນດິນສິນໃນນໍ້ານັ້ນ ບໍ່ມີລົດໄຟເຂົາກໍ່ເຂົ້າມາຂຸດຄົ້ນເອົາໄດ້ສະບາຍຢູ່ແລ້ວ.






Buk Khuay stupid... jung man stupid like buffalo nor...China will take 40,000Km of lao land... Buk Stupid

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So could you please back to read the history of lao PDR, why we have to take our land back from the .....( i think you know that ) and right now why we should give them our land to other country ????

Think about that

 



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Anonymous wrote:
Buk Khuay stupid... jung man stupid like buffalo nor...China will take 40,000Km of lao land... Buk Stupid

ຄືດ່າຄັກແທ້ລະພໍ່ອາວ ຮາໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆໆ. ຂ້ານ້ອຍຄິດວ່າເຂົາຈະເອົາ 421000 ເຮັກຕາຊັ້ນດອກ ເພາະວ່າຕັ້ງແຕ່ຊາຍແດນຈີນມາຫາວຽງມີປະມານ 421 ກິໂລແມັດ ແລະເຂົາຈະເອົາສອງຟາກທາງ ຟາກລະ 5 ກິໂລແມັດ. ຂ້ານ້ອຍຄິດວ່າ ເຂົາບໍ່ເອົາແຕ່ດິນຫັ້ນຕິລະ ຊັບໃນດິນສິນໃນນໍ້າເຂົາກະຊິເອົາອີກຫັ້ນຕິ.

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ປະຊາຊົນລາວເຮົາ ກໍຈະເພີ້ມຂຶ້ນ ແລ້ວ ເຮົາກໍຈະມີລູກຊອດເຈັກຫລາຍຂຶ້ນ

ມີແຕ່ ຜູ້ຂາວໆງາມໆ ນັ້ນຄືການປ່ຽນໂສມໜ້າ ຂອງ ຊາດລາວເຮົາ.



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keekharAmerica

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Nice and juicy " look sod jek "biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin I love it



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Anonymous wrote:

ປະຊາຊົນລາວເຮົາ ກໍຈະເພີ້ມຂຶ້ນ ແລ້ວ ເຮົາກໍຈະມີລູກຊອດເຈັກຫລາຍຂຶ້ນ

ມີແຕ່ ຜູ້ຂາວໆງາມໆ ນັ້ນຄືການປ່ຽນໂສມໜ້າ ຂອງ ຊາດລາວເຮົາ.


ເຂົ້າຈາວປົນເຂົ້າໜຽວວ່າຊັ້ນສາ ຖ້າເຂົ້າຈ້າວຫລາຍກ່ວາເຂົ້າໜຽວ ຊິບໍ່ເປັນເຂົ້າຈ້າວໝົດຫວາຊັ້ນ?

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